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We cover:

• How the moon can affect you (and the people around you)
• The four main phases of the moon
• What activities align with the energy of each moon phase
• What magick corresponds with each moon phase
• How to align your self-care with the moon phases to ensure all areas of your life are nourished
• How to set up your calendar to make the most out of the moon phases (and what not to do)

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Hello, welcome to the A Pinch Magick Podcast and a special hello to the Belfast Coven who have inspired today’s topic along with tomorrow’s new moon.

I want to talk about the moon phases and just a reminder that when we did Magickal Summer School, Class Four, it was about Sacred Rhythms.

I go into much detail about working with the moon cycles and the sun cycles and all of the rhythms around us.

If you want to dive deeper into that, go into the show notes. I’ll link it in the comments. It’s free to access it. It’s just in our magical community.

The Moon

So the moon, I’m sure by now you’re very much aware of the moon and how it can impact you.

The first time I really consciously became aware of this, was I was at an Anti-social Behaviour Conference. Yes, in a previous life I used to manage community housing, and where I was, there was quite a lot of anti-social behaviour so I was at this conference learning how to manage the community better, to make them safer, etcetera.

It was quite interesting and a little bit stale. And then this, I can’t remember his rank, but he was very high up in the Brighton police force, he came on stage and started talking about the full moon and how they set their rotas according to the full moon.

Their anti-social behaviour team will put more police officers on the ground during a full moon.

And you can imagine all these professionals sat in this auditorium and they’re looking at each other going, “Is this person for real?”

And then he explained it, and he showed all the data that there is this real correlation between anti-social behaviour and the full moon.

Then when people got over the initial laughter. It was like, people started thinking about it and I started thinking about it. And I was like, “Oh my goodness, this makes so much sense.”

I used to work with, let’s politely say, mischievous children, and every time it is a full moon something extra mischievous would happen.

Sometimes the children would end up on the roof of the buildings. There would always be arguments, tears, emotions, heightened at the full moon. And it was always said as a bit of a joke, but actually behind that joke people really understood this.

A friend of mine, she works in mental health and the only time she’s ever been attacked by one of her clients was during a full moon, and that kind of got me thinking back to when I grew up in Cornwall, a very small fishing village.

And I was thinking, “Oh, yeah, of course I know this… the tides.” The moon is affected by the tide because twice a year, spring tide, the neap tide. When there was a full moon, that’s when my hometown could be flooded.

It often flooded twice a year, particularly if the wind was there too. And you’d see the fishermen pushing their boats back into the river because the river would burst and the boats would come up on the quayside, which was okay until the water receded again, and then the boats would remain on quayside. So they will be there pushing their boat back in the river.

I’ve always been influenced by this. I remember once my mum telling me that when we lived in Cornwall, we owned like bars and restaurants there, and my mum saying always at a full moon, she could name a handful of people that she said this is where the word ‘lunatic’ comes from. They will be playing Skittles with bar stools, the behaviour would just be different. You know, not violent, but just a little bit different from usual.

And I was like, “Oh my goodness.”

I’m sure if you think about these anecdotes, too, you probably notice the full moon energy, bringing out the heightened state of awareness and depending on whether you pay attention to this, you might notice but if you talk to people in a hospital, they’ll tell you there’s often more births during a full moon or there’s more accidents during a full moon.

And so, when I started putting all these pieces together, I was like, “Oh my goodness, we really are influenced by more than what we can see.”

Yes, I can see the tides, when I was younger, and I kind of knew that if it was a full moon, we were at risk with more flooding. But it’s like allowing us to really look deeper, to look deeper at how the rhythms around us, impact us.

Now, when we look at the moon cycles, it really is that first natural calendar that we would have had before clocks and timepieces. It just gives us that natural rhythm to life.

In summer school, in the Sacred Rhythms Class, I talked about how those cycles, we have those cycles in us too, particularly if we have a menstrual cycle.

I’m not going to talk about that today but if you are interested in that, the link will be in the show notes.

So, tomorrow is the new moon, this seems like a perfect time to start talking about the new moon.

I love working with the moon phases in particular, because it’s a really great way of setting our intentions, taking action, celebrating our action, reviewing our action and starting again.

Instead of waiting for the new year, instead of waiting for your birthday, instead of waiting for that significant time, we can just every 28 days, every 30 days. Between 28 and 30 days, we get a chance to check in with ourselves.

It brings great moonmentum, if I may, to our lives.

It’s really great to align our self-care with these areas.

(1). because it naturally fits in with that energy and

(2). because it makes sure we’re looking after all aspects of our self healthcare.

Today we’ll look at physical self-care, mental self-care, social self-care and emotional self-care, when we can look at all of those areas of our life, they make it much richer and more nourishing experience for us.

And then also, it’s just really good to check in to notice how you feel.

I talked about having that sacred pause. When we check in with the moon, we can just take that moment to go, “Oh, yeah. How am I feeling today?”

And sometimes that is enough, just to go “Oh yeah, how am I feeling today?”

So, let’s start with the new moon.

Now, I apologize in advance because I’m likely to want to go off and keep talking about how our inner cycle correlates with the outer cycle but like I said, I don’t want to do that today because I just want to focus on the moon cycle. But as within, so without, etcetera.

Tomorrow is the new moon.

I want you just to notice how you feel, archetypally, for all of this I’m going to talk in archetypally, this energy of the moon phase. You may or may not experience the moon that way.

I want to give you the archetypal energy of the moon phase so you have a moment to check in and said “Is this how I’m feeling right now?”

If it is, brilliant. Listen to all the anecdotes I give you. The ways to use energy and embrace it.

If you’re like actually, “No, Rebecca, that’s not how I feel right now.”

Brilliant.

Notice how you do feel and choose the activity that aligns with it.

What is most important is that you give yourself a moment to stop and check it with yourself.

Because like I said, we’re looking at the moon phases.

You also have, if you have a menstrual cycle, that menstrual cycle will be having an impact too.

Just as one piece of this, the new moon, corresponds to the actual bleeding of your menstrual cycle. So, if you are in the new moon but you’re ovulating, you might have a very different energy going on because ovulation relates to the full moon and the most power of your physical body.

So, if you are experiencing that on the new moon, you might not you might not be feeling the new moon archetypal energy or feeling like needing to rest and move inwards.

We always have different rhythms at work.

But what’s really nice about the lunar calendar, is that on the new moon, waxing moon, full moon and waning moon, it just gives us, like once a week to check in with our self, to notice how we are feeling and that allows us to notice our own natural rhythm, how we move through the world.

It allows us to structure our calendar, our work, our creativity, our intuition, our action and our rest along with some rhythm.

You may find your rhythm naturally aligned with the moon cycle.

You may find that it’s aligned with something slightly different.

But what’s important is you find out what your own rhythm is. Okay.

The New Moon

So let’s start again with new moon.

So just notice how you’re feeling right now.

If you’re listening to this … I’m recording this on the 26th of August, tomorrow, the Saturday is the new moon.

Notice how you feel.

Typically or archetypically, the New Moon is a time of the lowest energy of the moon cycle.

If you look at the sky tonight, you won’t actually see the moon reflected back to us.

It’s a time when we typically set intentions with the new moon.

While some people do it today, some people might do it a couple of days time, but we take this time right now to rest, to dream, to tap into our intuition.

It’s a great time for journaling, to get your favourite tools of divination and ask those deep questions.

“What is it that you’re doing?

What are you focusing on?

What is your biggest dream and desire right now?”

It’s not a time for taking bold action.

It’s a time to rest, to be nourished, just to allow yourself to step into the darkness.

One of my favourite things to do is, get your room as dark as possible. Get noise cancelling headphones, earbuds in, anything just to cancel out the noise, a little eye mask on and wrap myself up in a blanket or a duvet and just surrender into the darkness, that deepest, deepest most nourishing rest.

It’s a time, as you may imagine, of looking after your physical self.

So that might mean exercising, stretching, eating foods that feel really nourishing to you. It might mean going to bed early.

It means rest.

You might want to do some dream magick during this phase of the moon cycle.

And that might look like, getting a notepad and pen before you go to bed. Having that intention to remember your dreams and then noticing what you dream the next morning.

It might mean journaling, quite a dim light and just really tapping into the energy of turning inwards, the energy becomes very introverted.

This is that New Moon energy.

I like to think of this energy, all of this as a cycle of growth, which is basically what we see in the sky.

So right now, we are setting the seeds of our intentions. We’re allowing ourselves to rest. “We’re asking ourselves, what is it we want?

How is it we want to show up in the world over the next month or the next lunar calendar?” “What is it I want to be focusing on?”

We give our self that time to rest.

It’s like that energy of winter.

When you look around and the fields, there’s nothing really going on, they look empty. But actually, all of nourishment, all of the growth, all of roots cracking beneath the soil ready to step into the energy spring, which then correlates with that Waxing Moon energy, the energy of growth.

The Waxing Moon

As we step into that energy of growth, into that spring action. It’s very much that time to take big bold actions.

The energy is growing.

You know what your intention is, you’re clear on that action, now it’s time to take that bold action. To take that movement to move forward.

It’s a really good time for things like fire and candle magic, something that we are adding the energy to. To work with orange stones, like carnelian or citrine, the yellow stones. Just to add the energy of warmth, that extra humph to anything you’re going to do.

If you ever have to have a difficult conversation or there’s anything that you need to start, you just need that your extra momentum, during the waxing moon is the perfect time to do it.

Also referred to as the first quarter moon, the energy of growth.

During this time it’s very much about mental self-care because it’s a time of growth, it’s a time of expression.

It’s a time of learning of new things.

It’s a time of connecting with other people.

It’s a great time to research things.

To listen to new podcast, get new ideas, stretch your beliefs. Do you still believe those things? Are they still yours? Have you outgrowth those things?

Anything that puts you into stretching your comfort zone, stretching your growth, stretching your beliefs. T

his is the time to do it because it’s bold, it’s courageous. It’s like, “Yes, we’re doing this.” And it gives you the energy of action

The Full Moon

Which then leads us up into the full moon energy.

So this is very much about, I would think of the full moon as a spotlight. It’s very good at shining a spotlight on us.

Some people love the energy of the full moon.

For some people, it’s just way too much.

People love to have parties on the full moon and from a traditional point of view, before streetlights, having a party on the full moon made sense because people could actually see.

If you do it on the new moon you might be tripping over the hedges…

People often say, “the full moon is about releasing.” And other people say, “No, the full moon is about celebrating.”

I think it’s actually about both.

I think the more you celebrate yourself, the more you become, my favourite phrase, ‘full of yourself’, in a really healthy delicious way.

What it does, it naturally helps you to release those things that aren’t yours. Because it pushes them out …

The more you become full, it’s kind of like if you had a cup of dirty water and you kept dripping clean water into it, eventually, that water is going to become cleaner.

It’s going to get cleaner and cleaner and cleaner, until it’s fairly clean, and that’s the same with you.

The more you can keep connecting into yourself. The more you can keep reminding yourself who you are, the more you keep coming back to your home center, the more you’re going to push out the limiting beliefs, the beliefs that aren’t even yours, the doubts, the insecurities because you come back to, your own truth radiates.

So we have that full moon energy.

On the new moon and on the full moon are times when I when I really pay attention to what zodiac sign, the new moon and the full moon are moving through because they give us additional flavours of that moon cycle.

I’ll talk about that again in a minute but the reason I bring it up with the full moon, in particular, is because when that full moon shines with that lens, that flavour, of that zodiac sign, it can really highlight what is too much for somebody.

So for example, we’re in Virgo new moon tomorrow but let’s pretend it’s the Virgo full moon. What it would do?

Virgo represents detail, habits, health, it can be quite picnicky about things, it wants everything in its place.

If that was a full moon and you weren’t overly organized, it could start to highlight that for you and you’d feel a bit disorganized and things would be feeling a bit much.

If you were very organized and that full moon was there, maybe you would love it. Maybe it’ll help you put all your system in place or maybe it would show you where everyone else is disorganized and everyone else’s disorganization was just driving you crazy.

So whilst we have these very clear moon phases, they also come with added lens of the zodiac energy, that is not important right now, the four phases are most important, but I do think it’s interesting at the new moon when we set our intentions, for tomorrow it’s  the energy of Virgo so you might want to use that additional energy of Virgo to bring in systems that are going to help you create your intentions.

You might want to get really good habits in place that’s going to give you the steppingstones to get to where you want to go.

But equally at the full moon, it can really highlight where something is not working well in our life.

So, like I said the full moon for some people is like, “Yes, let’s party.” And for other people they’re like, “Oh my god, turn that light down, will you?”

The Waning Moon

That brings us into the waning moon as we start to travel back towards the new moon.

This is my favourite stage of the moon cycle.

It gets a bit of a bad wrap sometimes because it’s when people can be the most emotional.

I often call it the PMS, the PMT, of the moon phase, because just like if you had PMS or PMT, things may feel like they become too much, but they’re not really.

Maybe people have said things to you in the past if you’ve ever had a menstrual cycle. “Oh, my goodness, you’re on your period.” And it just means that, maybe you seem a little bit more grouchy or on edge, but actually what’s happening is, in that part of the moon phase or your menstrual cycle, is you suddenly notice what’s working for you and what’s not.

It’s a really good time review your life and release what’s not working.

So what’s working for you in your life right now and what isn’t.

What’s aligned with you, your values, your boundaries, your truth and what isn’t?

Because all the things that aren’t, are going to come to light.

They’re going to be highlighted and that can make you really quite cranky, and so that’s what gets a bad wrap.

But actually it’s a really, really great time to have a look at your life.

What needs releasing?

What is working?

What are you carrying forward into the next moon cycle?

What isn’t working?

And that might be an intention.

Maybe that intention you’ve chosen, you thought it was a great intention. But actually, it was just the wrong intention for you at that time or you thought it was a good intention but you realize it wasn’t yours, it what you thought you should be doing.

Maybe it’s about actions.

Maybe it’s about friendships.

Maybe it’s about anything in your life…

It’s like what is it that you’re being called to focus on.

And just ask yourself, “What’s working?”

“What am I carrying forward.”

“What aren’t I carrying forward?”

So, it’s a really good time to do any kind of releasing magick.

Whether you’re writing and journaling and then burning the paper.

Whether you’re singing and drumming and shouting, crying and laughing.

It’s like release, release, release because during that time we’re looking at the energy of emotional self-care.

How can you look after your emotions?

What emotions needs to be expressed, need to be honoured, need to be released.

One of the big emotions is anger.

I’ve done a whole podcast on the energy of anger and how that’s sacred and how we can use it.

So, what is it that needs to be released?

Be gentle with yourself during that time and just observe. And perhaps don’t make any rash decisions.

I often joke about this. I always knew when I was coming up to my own menstrual cycle, bleed time, because for one day my partner, he chewed too loudly.

I swear to god, I could probably hear him chewing across the road and it would drive my ears crazy because I’m very auditory sensitive anyway.

And I would be like, “Oh, my god.”

I didn’t say anything because I knew if I had said anything he would suck his food forevermore.

And I’d tell myself, “ If it still irritates me tomorrow I’ll say something.”

But guess what, it never ever did because it was never about his chewing, it was about me and me being more sensitive at that time.

So, maybe no rash decisions immediately.

But if this still an issue, unless it’s like an immediate violation of your boundary, obviously that’s very different, but if it’s just something that’s annoying you, like low-level, low-grade annoyance, just ask yourself or rather say to yourself. “If this still going to annoy me in two days’ time, I’m going to say something.”

But maybe just take a breath, just during that moment.

So, these are really good ways to use the moon cycle.

Overview

So, just as a reminder we’ve got the new moon, which is when we want to look after our physical self-care.

When we want to do things like dream magick, journaling and setting your intention.

And that’s the energy that you’re going to move through for the rest of the month.

We then have the waxing moon, which is the energy of growth, of action.

We’re looking after our mental self-care right then because we’re growing. We’re pushing out of our boundaries.

During that stage, you might want to have a look at fire magick, candle magic … I keep seeing carnelians coming through. And I was like, “Yes, carnelians energy.” That fire energy of growth, of action.

Then we come into the full moon energy, the time to celebrate yourself.

You might want to try anything that feels celebratory or glamour magick.

It’s looking after your social self-care, to make sure that you’re connecting with other people in a way that feels good and healthy to you. Whether you’re introverted or extraverted, it doesn’t matter.

But that you know that you have your support team around you, whether that’s one person or whether that’s a hundred; it doesn’t matter. But during the full moon it’s a time to connect with our energy of social self-care.

And then with the waning moon, that’s your review and release energy – when we’re looking at any kind of releasing magick and looking after our emotional self-care.

I think that’s what I want to say about the moon phases.

Once you start working with the moon phases it’s really interesting just to notice your own energy.

Yes, those are the ways we can traditionally work with the moon phases but like I’ve said, you might not feel aligned with the energy for a host of other reasons.

But just check in with yourself and asked yourself, “How do I feel right now?”

Like I said if you’re listening to this when it goes out, this is the new moon energy.

I always think of the new moon and the full moon, two or three days before the new moon, the day of the new moon, or two or three days afterwards.

So you’ve got like a good five or six days there to really connect in with that energy.

So, we go from that new moon into the waxing energy, and notice whether you do feel into the energy of growth.

To be honest, one of the things that had the biggest impact on my life, of getting to know myself, bearing in mind I’ve  been in the personal development, personal growth world from about the age of 15 or 16. But when I learned more about myself, how I work, like my own rhythms and things like that, it wasn’t until I started charting my energy, which I was checking in with the moon phases, that I suddenly get a grip on my own, my creative style, my own manifesting style and instead of thinking that I had to be constantly always on, always creating, always producing, always, always, always… I suddenly realized like, “Oh, my goodness. The whole moon cycle is a time of growth and production, and then rest, releasing and resting.

And if you think about it, we’ve got the waxing moon and the full moon, which is like a go, go, go, produce, produce, celebrate, create energy.

And then we’ve got the waning moon and the new moon, which is like slow down and rest because when we slow down and rest it gives us the energy and stamina to start and keep going again.

When we slow down and rest, it gives us the time for all of our ideas and creative insights to catch up with us.

There’s a reason most people have their best ideas when they’re in the shower.

There’s a reason people have the most ideas when they’re on holiday, because they have stopped.

Even if it’s just for a moment in the shower.

It’s like, I had one of my best ideas when I was just driving. You’re concentrating but you’re not having to do 50 things at once (well hopefully you shouldn’t be), and that drop of insight comes in.

In fact, I had one of my best ever ideas, one that’s lasted my entire magickal career.

When I was driving. And it’s just like, “Oh, my god, there it is!” And I was like, “Oh, I can’t write it down.” So, I had to keep chanting it to myself until I got to somewhere safe and suitable to do that.

The resting part, the moon phase reminds us that the rest is as important as the creation.

Our society really values production, production, production, production.

And we put our value on what we can produce. But actually we’re not designed to be ‘on’ all the time, so that’s why we have so much burnout.

That’s why we have so many people feeling unfulfilled and frustrated.

That’s why we have so many people feeling like they’re failures because they’re not constantly producing, but you’re not a machine. Okay, you’re not a machine.

You’re not supposed to go, go, go, go.

We have the moon phases telling us to rest.

We have day and night telling us to rest.

We have the seasons telling us to rest.

Everything has a period of growth. It has a period of celebration and blooming. It has a period of reviewing, which would look like autumn. It has a period of rest which looks like winter.

Then it has a period like slowly getting going again, which looks like spring. And then it’s like go, go, go, which is summer.

I’m sure you can see how those seasons fit into the moon phase, too.

That’s why we called it four seasons in a month, four seasons in four weeks.

Because we go through those seasons, we go through those cycles in a much more condensed energy, but we need to rest.

I think when we work with the moon cycles, we start to notice in our own energy, “Oh, yeah, this part of the moon cycle, I feel really ready to go and this part of the moon cycle I need to slow down and rest.”

So, what that allows us to do, is to start looking at the way we schedule our life.

Have you ever said, “Oh, my god, I would love to come to that party.” And in that moment, you absolutely believe you wanted to go to that party. And then on the day of the party or the day before you say, “Why did I say yes? I’m exhausted. How can I get out of this? I can’t get out of this. That would be rude?”

So, maybe you come up with a lie or maybe you go and feel quite resentful. Not a great way to live your life.

Whereas, when you start to notice your own cycle, the moon cycles impact you. When someone asks you to do something, you can check your calendar and be like, “Oh, I really love to, but I can’t then.”

Or if someone asks you and you’re like, “Yes, I would love that”, and you know that your energy is going to be the highest and that’s going to be amazing.

And equally at work, you might not be able to go, “Oh, it’s the new moon, I can’t come in to work for a few days.” But what you can do is try and make sure there are no big presentations that are due, or any deadlines are due during that moon phase.

Or if there is, you support yourself to the best you can.

Supporting yourself might look like making sure you go to bed early, getting the takeout, you don’t have to cook.

It might mean not taking on anything additional and just doing what you know you have to do.

Whereas, where it’s the waxing moon and the full moon, doing the presentation and going for drinks after work, or going to that party, you’re going to have the stamina to do that.

So, working with the moon phases, not only is it great for your magick, great for your self-care, it’s also great for your calendar and the way that you helped to manage your life.

Now, these are not hard and fast rules.

These are just ways I’m suggesting for you to explore, to have a look at your life being more than just go, go, go, go and then feeling guilty for stopping.

The resting is as important as the action.

There’s nothing in the natural order of life that said you have to go, go, go, go.

Everything goes through that phase of darkness, into growth, into blooming and celebration, into reviewing and releasing.

Even our breath. We breathe in, there’s a pause, we exhale. We don’t always notice the pause but it’s there.

Conclusion

So, I would love for you to come over into our community, share your favourite moon story, perhaps I started off sharing all of those ways that I started noticing particularly how the new moon affects us.

Perhaps you work in an industry and you’re like, “Oh, my god. I see that all the time”.

Or perhaps you notice that in yourself.

Maybe you notice it when your children can’t sleep. A friend of mine was like, “Rebecca, is it the full moon? The kids aren’t sleeping.” And I’m like, “yeah, two days’ time”. The kids know, they’re not sleeping.”

So, come and share with us what your favourite experience of the moon was, how you used the moon cycle or what was your biggest take away from today’s episode.

Thank you for joining me and I’ll speak to you again very soon.

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Today’s episode of the A Pinch of Magick podcast is a little more personal, as I share how I bought magick to my decision to have a full hysterectomy a few months ago. 

I wasn’t having any pain or discomfort, but after a routine check up, my gynaecologist recommended a full hysterectomy.

At first I was outraged. 

I didn’t want to be another statistic of an unnecessary surgery.

But then I asked my body what it wanted and I was shocked . At that moment everything changed for me.

We cover:

• How I processed the decision of whether or not to have surgery
• Following my intuition and over-riding my head
• Creating sacred ritual around surgery
• The energetic debris we carry in our womb spaces (and our bodies)
• Why I think I healed so quickly
• How to bring magick to surgery you might have to undergo

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Hello and welcome to the A Pinch Magick Podcast with me, Rebecca Anuwen.

Today I want to talk about the magick of surgery.

I’m going to share with you an operation I had recently and how I completely transformed the entire experience by bringing magick to it. Physical magick, the magickal mind-set, the whole works.

It really was about making a conscious choice for myself.

So, if you’re a bit squeamish, you don’t want to hear about surgery. If you’re not interested about my insides and what’s been going on.

It’s going to be very much about a gynaecological issue.

I want to share this for a couple of reasons, partly because we can bring magick to surgery and to operations. Also, we need to be talking about gynaecological issues more.

It’s something that whether it’s periods, whether it’s menopause, whether it’s perimenopause, we don’t really talk about enough. So, we’re like, “Is this normal?” 

“Is this what happens to everyone else?”

For some reason, we just don’t like talking about it.

So, if that’s not your thing, come back next week.

But if you are interested, if any of those things resonate for you. If you have surgery coming up. If you think you might have surgery in the future maybe this will help you.

And also, I think sometimes there’s an idea in spiritual communities, I don’t know if that’s the right phrase, where medical interventions are often shunned upon and it’s like you should be able to solve anything with things that are ‘air quotes’, “natural”, more of a natural base. And yes, absolutely, something that’s very relevant but sometimes there are real physical issues going on that need intervention.

If we looked at Western medicine or even traditional Eastern medicine, if we looked at medicine, if we looked at surgeries – that really is magick.

The fact that someone could nearly be dying and they can be saved, is nothing short of miraculous and magick.

I often like to think of witches as the first scientists.

You have an idea, you have a hypothesis, you test it, and then you amend your findings. If that didn’t work. “Let’s try something else.”

So you might think, “Oh, someone’s got an upset stomach. I saw this cow eating this herb when it had an upset stomach. Let me try that on a person. Ops, that didn’t work. Let’s amend that and try something different.”

I think we definitely need to step away from, “Natural is best.” Yes, there’s absolutely a place for that but they should really be working in tandem with each other.

So about the end of May of this year, I had a full hysterectomy.

I feel like it was an elective surgery and I actually felt like I was going on a spa holiday. And a friend of mine even said to me, “I don’t even know you had surgery. I actually thought you were going to the spa.” Because my energy around it was just so happy to have that done. And it’s quite interesting when I look at people that have just hysterectomies. They say when you’re young and you have a hysterectomy 45 and older, and I’m like “oh my goodness. I’m 44 so I’m like really, really young to have a full hysterectomy.” 

It always makes me chuckle because when I was a child I always wanted to get older, even now as an adult. I’m like, “I love getting gray hairs. I love getting lines on my face.” I just love that whole aging process. I’ve always, always resonated with the crone energy and it’s like I’ve brought it in early for myself. 

So when I had that surgery, I want to talk to you about the process that I went through. Very short overview of it, I had the surgery, went home the next day, I haven’t had a single iota of pain. After surgery, I didn’t even take a paracetamol. The pain was non-existent. I’ll explain to you why I think that was, maybe that’s common; I don’t know. People I’ve spoken to, particularly I’ve got some friends that are like Western medical health professionals and they’re like, “That really isn’t normal.”

 And even the night nurse was like, “Keep it here just in case you need it.”

I was like, “No, I won’t.” 

She was like “Yes, but you should get ahead of the pain.”

And I was like, ‘I just know it’s not there’ and sure enough, it wasn’t.

I went home the next day. I was up and down the stairs a couple of times before I left the hospital. Home the next day, everything has healed beautifully.

But I want to take you back, this all started for me eight years ago.

So anyone into astrology, you may have heard of a Venus cycle that’s eight years long. I want you to just remember that when you’re going through something time brings clarity. So eight years ago, I gave birth to my son. I had planned to have a home birth. Here in the UK we’re very lucky we have midwives but I also employed a doula. The Dr’s are very supportive of home births. They gave me gas and air for the home. I had a birthing pool which I set up in my dining room and the midwife came around. 

I’d been in labour for about two days. And she says you need to go to the hospital his heartbeat keeps dropping.”

And I was like, “No, no, I’ll be fine.”

She’s like, you really have to go to the hospital. She said go to hospital. Check out the heartbeat then you can come back home.”

The hospital, where I live, the closest hospital is about 50 minutes away. So I went there, I didn’t take an overnight bag or anything because I fully intended to come home.

We got to the hospital, and they kept me in overnight, and whilst I was there I hadn’t realized quite how serious it was, because the nurse just stood next to my side all night long monitoring his heartbeat.

I think I went in at eight o’clock at night and she was just there all night just checking the stats, checking the stats, checking the stats. I was laying there and it was just about seven o’clock in the morning. I thought “Goodness me, day three. This really has to be the day; he has to come today.”

 And suddenly I heard all these alarms going off and I just remember thinking, “Oh, that poor person,” who is having the alarm. And then suddenly the room I was in

just swarmed with people, they got my bed, they dropped it down, whisk me off to theatre.

And I was like, “Oh, my god. The sirens were for me. What’s going on?”

I can still remember this now, like how you remember the silly things. I don’t know if she was the head nurse or something because I was in a gown. They’re like, “Cover her bottom,” because I was on my side and I was thinking “you really think I care with my bum’s hanging out right now? I really don’t.” 

So, I’m now laying in the theatre, and it was really funny. It was not funny at all, but when I look back iIt’s like my life has been the things that I resist always happen.

So I’ve always been terrified of hospitals so much so that when I went to my antenatal class and when I went and did my Hypnobirthing, they said “Alright, you should go and check out the hospital.”

I was like, “No. I’m not going to hospital. I don’t like hospitals.”

There was almost like a phobia of hospitals. I must have been 36 when I gave birth, and at that point in my life, I’d never had surgery. I’d never even had so much as a filling and I didn’t wear glasses.

I’ve never been ill, ever. Maybe I’ve an old cough or cold but nothing more serious than that. 

I’m lying there and this trainee Dr or Nurse says like, “Aren’t you the person that’s phobic of hospitals?”

And I was like, “Yes.”

And she went, “You’re doing really, really well.”

And I can just remember saying to her, “I don’t really have a choice, do I?” 

So, I was laying there, and they’ve got a cloth upfront of me and I hear a baby crying. And I’m like, “Oh, gosh, that baby is really close. Who has just given birth?”

And then they just pass me my child and I was like, “Oh, that was very quick. So, I had an emergency C-section but I was never ever in any trouble and that’s part of the story. I had an emergency surgery, but I wouldn’t really call it an ‘emergency’ because I was in the right place, with the right teams around me at that time. As it turns out my little boy was just being a mischief and wasn’t in any danger at all.

So looking back what had happened was, they had turned me onto my side and his heartbeat had dropped. When they had put me on my back and got me into the theatre, his heartbeat regulated again. I was already at 9cm dilated, you get to 10cm and that’s when you’re giving birth. So, when I was laying on my back, basically, they prep me for surgery, they just went through with it and I had a child.

For a few short moments I felt very cheated of the whole powerful birthing process, but to be honest I was just so happy to have my little boy, strong, healthy, and everything else, it was great.

I remember them going, “so are you going to put your nighty on then?”

And I’m like, “What nighty?”

And they were like, “Where is your overnight bag?”

And I’m like, “I don’t have one with me. I only came in to have his heartbeat checked. I had no intention of staying.”

So my partner had to go across the road, luckily there was a supermarket, and he had to go and buy me a nighty.

I was in the hospital again for a day. I was in the hospital for one night and I sneaked home the next day. 

So, again emergency operation, home very quickly, recover very well.

Four years later, I then do Miranda’s Grays Moon Mother training, which is all about healing the energetic womb space, the womb space working with the energy. Brilliant training. I love her training. She is just a phenomenal lady.

One of the ladies that was hosting her, she had organized the training, she said when she had done all this womb work, she had then loads of trouble with fibroids and other gynaecological problems. 

I remember thinking, “Isn’t that a shame with all this womb healing, and then you have all that womb trouble. Surely the womb healing should’ve helped?”

How judgmental and naive I was!?

Anyway, about a year later I had some issues. I went down to the doctors and they said, “Oh, you’ve got a cyst on your left ovary.” But they said it’s small enough, it won’t be any problem, but we can get it removed.”

And I was like “no, thank you. It’s not causing me any trouble. It’s fine.”

A year and a day later, I didn’t know it was a year and a day later, it’s only when I checked my diary it was a year and a day, and if you know anything about magick, a day and a year is a very powerful initiation time. My second apprenticeship time. I ended up in A&E, the first time I ever went to A&E.

I went in there again just expecting them to do a little scan and send me home on my way; but no. It was a Saturday, I went in for a little scan and they didn’t let me go home, and where I live they only do surgeries on a Tuesday and a Thursday. So once again I find myself in an “emergency situation” but not so much of an emergency, they had to operate the same day.

They gave me the choice to operate the same day. But I say, “No, it’s fine, I’ll wait for full staff and everything else. I was fine, I was in hospital. I was in the best place I could be.” They operated on the Tuesday and I’ve had an ovarian cyst that had grown to 21 centimetres.

Now, during that time I’ve done the Moon Mother training and then I was working with a friend and we were doing some work on the land with dragon energy and yew trees.

We did a workshop called ‘Waking the Dragon’ and we had gone to this church in Wales. There were seven or eight yew trees in that church and we had really cleared the energy for the dragons, to bring back the energy again. Then low and behold, there I find myself in hospital basically giving birth to a dragon’s egg.

It really was an incredible cyst, and they removed it whole. One of the doctor’s, she was so excited to show me, she said, “Do you want to see a picture of it?”

And I was like, “of course, I want to see a picture of this thing, of what just happened to me.”

This huge initiation.

This cyst was almost as big as my little boy when I gave birth to him.

I said, “Wow! What did you call it?”

She goes, “just look at what you’ve given birth to.”

And I said, “What did you called it?”

And she said, “Pete.”

So, of course me being me, the first thing that I do is I googled, ‘what does the name Pete represent?’ And it meant something like stone, rock.

When I first found out about this ovarian cyst, the first thing I did was go to a kinesiologist and she had said to me, “It’s your mother’s tears.”

I said, “Oh, that’s interesting.” I didn’t give it must more thought.

Anyway, when I found out that Pete meant like ‘stone’ or ‘rock’. I was like, “Ah, it’s feels like a whole lot of ancestral patterns, a whole ancestral lineage baggage being removed from me”.

And after surgery I just felt so, I guess high, obviously from the drugs, but I felt so expansive. It was incredible. I felt absolutely cracked open and like whoosh. When I went in, because I had been in there from the Saturday to the Tuesday waiting for my surgery, I had been on this ward with this other woman, and I was, again, the youngest on the women’s gynaecological ward, probably by about 30 years.

When I came out of the theatre, they wheeled me into the recovery ward and there was this woman again. She looked at me and she went, “When are you having your operation?”

I said, “I’ve just come out of surgery?”

And she couldn’t believe it because I looked so vibrant.

I felt so good.

Yes, lot of that would have been the drugs, but I just feel so good. That good feeling never left. It really did feel like I had been cracked open and it was at that point I started going, “Oh this is interesting.” Because it felt like, originally the ovarian cyst, the kinesiologist says ‘that’s your mother’s tears’.

Then the cyst being called Pete, which was like ‘stone’, and it felt like a mill stone. I was like, “Oh this is really interesting,” because it was like all of that ancestral pattern was in that cyst, and it was removed.

It was like instead of having to do years and years and years of therapy, and energy work, and healing, it’s like the surgery just removed them.

And that surgery took, well not longer to recover from, but it was because of the size of the cyst it was absolutely full abdominals scaring. I’ve got great scars all over my tummy.

That felt like a potent thing but again at the time I wasn’t really putting things together, apart from I was like, “Oh, my god. That was a year and a day later. It feels symbolic.”

I’d done all this work with the yew trees and the dragon energy, all of this ancient energy.

And then I had one of my ovaries removed.

Four years later again, like I said, it has this very clear eight years’ cycle. I had gone back to the gynaecologist again just for my routine scan. And I got called back and she said, “Oh, you’ve got abnormal cells.”

And I was like, “who doesn’t?” It didn’t faze me at all because I feel in really good health. And obviously you can be very poorly and still feel in good health. But when I feel into my body, when I scanned my body it didn’t feel like anything nefarious was going on.

So she said, “okay, we’ll keep an eye on it. Come back in, however, many months’ time.” And I did.

She wants to fit a coil, and I was like, “No thanks, don’t want that.”

She said, “Well, take these hormone tablets” and I was like, “No thanks.” I don’t want to take those either”.

She then said “you’ve to have two clear scans and then I ‘ll sign you off my books”.

The second scan came back, again, it showed abnormal cells and she wrote to me saying, “we’re going to get you in for hysterectomy.”

And I ‘m thinking, “No, not until you’ve spoken to me about this.”

I had phoned and said, “I need to talk to the surgeon before we have any operation.” And before she even got back to me, I had a letter saying, ‘you’re going in for pre-op’.

And I was like, “Can everyone just calm down right now, please? I haven’t even spoken to my surgeon about what are the options are right now?”

“Why am I having to have this surgery?

Can I wait?

What’s going on?”

So, I’ve this like, “How dare you!” kind of energy.

And it was like, “Oh, I’m just going to be another statistic, you just going to whip my womb out just for no reason.”

I had all of this, like, “How dare you energy? You just want to make me in a statistic and I ‘m not prepared to do that … blah, blah, blah”.

I got really wound up about it, which was quite interesting, as I don’t really feel like that, so I thought “Okay, pay attention, Rebecca.”

And so the surgeon confirmed, “Yes. This is the date of your surgery.”

And I was like, “No. I’m not having the surgery on that day. I’m not ruling the surgery out, but I want time to go and think about it.”

 And she was like, “Well, if there’s cancer there, we’re not going to know until we remove your womb and your remaining ovary.”

And I was like, “stop right there. Maybe I’ll let you take out my womb because I don’t want any more children. That’s fine. But I want to keep my ovary.”

She was like, “Well, you have to think about it.”

So, we delayed the surgery.

She asked, “When do you want the surgery if you were to have it?” And I said, “At least six weeks later.”

It was so fast; another letter came out explaining that I knew the risk about waiting. If there’s any issues… blah, blah blah. So once I had got over my initial, “How dare you?” energy, I then actually took some time to meditate with my own body and just felt into my body, and asked my body what it wanted?

I still didn’t have any concerns that there’s anything “wrong” in my body. Not that I know what it would feel like anyway. But I was very confident that actually my body was feeling very strong and healthy. Particularly from an energetic point of view.

When I actually asked my body, I got a real shock.

I said to my body, “Do you want to have this surgery?

And it said, “Yes.”

And I was like, “What? What do you mean you want to have this surgery?”

Then I was like, “Oh, my god! Is something wrong.”

I was like, just hang on a minute, just take it back again.

So, I just sat with my body and just, not mediated in a traditional sense but just started feeling into my body, having a dialogue with my body. And it was like, “No, I want to have this surgery.” And I was like, “oh, okay.”

See, the thing that I feel about wombs is that they’re a ‘cupboard under the stairs’. Unless we have a period, unless we’re giving birth, we don’t really use that space for anything. It’s just there.

It’s our seat of creation.

I think we’re so disconnected from our power, which is that place of creation for whatever you want to create in the world, whether it’s poetry, art, children, whatever it may be. I refer to it as ‘the cupboard under the stairs’ or that ‘kitchen draw’ … that drawer in the kitchen where you put all the menus and the little things you get from Ikea. And it just goes into that draw until it finds somewhere better to go.

And I think we do that with our womb spaces. That we have an emotional vent, we have some trauma, something happens to us and we just shove it down into that womb space, as that ‘cupboard under the stairs’ promising that we’ll get back to it. And then we very rarely do.

I’ve worked with this energy, a lot actually, and I’ve narrowed it down to eight distinct types of trauma with a little ‘t’, that we store in our womb space. From being a good girl, to like growing up, to feeling shame, for obviously any kind of abuse there is as well. But that energy of giving away our power.

There’s eight very clear phases that we go through and all of that’s stored in our womb space.

When people tell me they have PMT, or they have back pain or they have issues with that womb space, it never surprises me because one of those eight energies will be out of alignment.

When I was feeling into my womb space, it was like “Yep, get it gone.”

So suddenly that changed my relationship with this surgery, from being told that’s what I’ve to do. And feeling “No, that’s what society wants.”

To going “Oh, actually, no, this is something I want to choose because it’s feels powerful for me”. Because just like when I had the cyst removed and it removed all of that ancestral energy. It felt like the womb, having the womb removed is going to do the same thing for me.

So suddenly it completely shifted.

I already have the pre op and I had the surgery two days before the pre op expired. So had I had the surgery two days later I would have had to go for another pre op.

This time I felt like this was an elective surgery because I could have said no, of course and not had the surgery.

Of course, I could have said ‘no’, it’s my body.

The gynaecologist would have absolutely said I should have it done … that she would recommend having the surgery. But I could have said ‘no’.

But actually, I decided I was going to say ‘yes’, but I wanted to keep my one remaining ovary.

And I spoke to a friend of mine who had had a hysterectomy but she had kept her one reminding ovary and she had a real trouble trying to get any kind of hormone therapy sorted out because she still had this one ovary that was producing some kind of hormone but no one really knew what it was producing. She was finding it really hard to get the dosage of oestrogen that’s right for her.

When she was telling me her experiences of talking to different gynaecologist I was like, “That’s it. It’s all going.”

Another chat to my body and that was a decision.

And so this time, whereas the first time I had my first emergency C section, although it didn’t feel like an emergency. I went into the hospital unexpectedly.

When I had the cyst removed, again, I went into A&E, they didn’t let me go home. Yes, it was an emergency surgery but it wasn’t under the blue light energy of emergency. It was just like, they just didn’t let, me go home, I had to have the operation.

This time I was like, “Oh, brilliant.” So what I did this time is I did the ceremony for myself.

I prepared myself for surgery.

I had this conversation with my body. I done a ceremony where I thanked my womb. I thanked her for everything that she had done for me, for everything that we had created together.

I even planted a tree in garden. I was asking myself, “What tree do you want planted?” I thought maybe it would be a bush or a plant. But she wanted it to be a tree, and it’s this beautiful magnolia tree.

 It’s got these really deep red flowers on it.

They look very womb shaped when I brought it and all the flowers were very closed up and of course, by the time I’d had my surgery and I came home, the flowers had opened and bloomed and I was like, “Oh, that’s incredibly symbolic.”

I had also created a crystal grid to hold my energy when I had the surgery.

I prepared myself as much as I could physically, emotionally, spiritually, and energetically for the day of surgery because I knew when this one was going to happen.

I was so excited when I was telling the members of my community “I’m so excited. Look, I’ve got an overnight bag”. I had pyjamas packed. I have bottles of water. I had a couple of bananas. I had my iPad chargers, my phone charger. I felt like all of that was good. It really did feel like the energy of going on holiday, to have that spa treatment and then to come home again.

So I had the surgery late morning, and when I came around, the one I’d had before I felt so high. I was like, “Oh my god. I could conquer the world right now.” I felt like I’d been blasted open. This time, I felt really cantered and grounded. And I kept saying to them, “What drugs did you give me?” I said ‘they feel amazing’. I said ‘I just feel so, so peaceful’.

And the doctors are just looking at me like “Yeah, okay, just whatever they give you.”

And I said, “You don’t give me anything else?”

They said, “No.”

And I said, “Oh, okay.”

“You can have codeine or you can have these other drugs if you want for pain.” I was like No, I’m fine. Thanks.”

They were like, “whoa, you probably should have some.”

 And I’m like, “No I’m fine. I’ll just wait to see what happens.”

And then at bedtime, she came around and was like “here some paracetamol or something. You can keep it there”.

But I said, “I don’t think I need anything.”

I could just tell, my body just felt really good.

Anyway, I was up and about that night. And then the next morning I got myself up and had a shower.

Now when I had my previous surgery, I didn’t have a shower until about 36 hours after surgery. This was less than 24 and I was like having a shower, everything was working properly.

I got into bed and then my boys arrived to pick me up. So I went downstairs to see them in the car park and I walked back up.

I went home and everything was really good and everything just felt so aligned. 

Another piece of what had happened was that night, the first night I’d had surgery when I was in the hospital, I did a huge meditation/it was more of a journey, where I went in and I cleared all of the remnants of any pain or trauma that I still had in my energetic womb space, in that womb space.

And I brought in, I work with the goddess Cerridwen, and she waswith me. And together we just cleared all of the experiences that my womb had had, the whole area had had. And it was a really, really profound experience, probably a little more than I can share on the podcast.

But it went on for what seemed like hours. We were just clearing, and clearing and clearing every memory, every feeling, and emotion feeling.

It was just I knew I wasn’t going to have any pain because there was nothing for the pain to hang on to. I know from like a medical point of view, that probably sounds really crazy. But from an energetic point of view, I knew there was nothing, nothing that pain could hang on to, it just wasn’t there. It was just gone.

I was really confident that there was going to be no trouble. It just felt like it had gone from the potential of child-bearing womb space into a universal womb space.

Now when I had my little boy that’s when I wrote my first book that wasn’t a recipe book, when I wrote my first actual book and it just start a whole thing of creation.

It’s like having him, maybe even having that surgery and getting through the fears of like, “Oh my god, I never want to go to hospital.” It cracked open a portal for me, that creative portal.

When I had the ovary removed, again it cracked open a whole level of depth of connecting even deeper to that earth energy, to that dragon energy; I was technically a dragon mother by then haha. It opened up that real depth of connection.

And this time, it’s only two months into the journey. But it feels more like a universal womb and even when I’m working with people now doing the kinesiology, doing the energetic work. It feels at a whole other level, just again it’s like that portal has been open where I feel like I chose it this time.

It feels much more powerful rather than I had to have the previous ones. And they weren’t emergency so it’s almost like the universe is like, “Okay, she is not going to choose this, we’re going to have to make it happen for her.” Here we go. There it’s happened. But it wasn’t until now that when I look back. I was like wow that was an eight years’ cycle. That was a whole process.

And then if you look at my astrological chart right now you’re like, “oh, yeah, of course. Of course, that’s happening to her right now. Yeah, yeah.”

Even apart from all that, we can bring the magick into something that could be quite traumatic for our bodies, or even yourself emotionally, physically, all of it. 

So yeah, when you know that you have surgery coming up, absolutely weave in the magick.

Some people I’ve spoken to, and I get this, particularly for my little one’s birth, is that sometimes people feel like it’s a failure that they couldn’t do it themselves, but sometimes we’re not supposed to.

And I think, when I had my little boy I was like, “Oh, I didn’t…” I felt like I’d failed having the birth I wanted. But perhaps he got the birth that he wanted; that little magician that he is.

But there is something really powerful about having a situation that I could have said, ‘no’ to having the hysterectomy, but it felt really powerful to choose that because that’s what my body wanted.

Then I felt even more powerful to use the magick, to clear the energy, to let the surgery go well.

Of course, the lack of pain was probably due to the skill of my surgeon. But you know, we’ve got magick. I was creating the best magickal container for everybody involved for me, but also everyone else that was in the hospital that day, whether they were working with me or not, to hold that container.

And so yeah, it just felt right to share that today.

Maybe there’s someone out there that need to hear it.

Maybe, there’s something that you need to remember that the magick is that we do have access to surgery, to medicine but also to know that these situations where sometimes we can feel out of control, we can bring in our magick. 

We can bring in a sense of power and agency, even when we might feel like our autonomy has been taken away from us. 

Even in those moments, we can still bring in magick and I still feel fantastic.

It does feel like it has opened up a whole another level of reverence for the energy that I’ve worked with.

I would say when I’m working with clients, it feels deeper, more powerful, I feel more connected.

It’s like it’s laser beam straight in there, there’s no room for nonsense anymore. Not that it was much room for nonsense before, but it just feels, like just owning it at a deeper level.

And of course, there’s other aspects of that for me that I have resisted for a very long time, that I’m now leaning into and saying ‘yes’ to. To a much deeper level of working with people that have passed on from this realm, which has tried to happen to me many times before and I’ve always said ‘no’.

But there’s something about working with that spiritual energy now, that I’m like, “Ah, it feels like I can hold that energy better.”

So, if you have any stories you wish to share, any magickal moments. If you’ve anything coming up, and you want to even just say, “Oh my god, Rebecca. Do you think this would work if I did this ceremony for yourself?”

And the answer would always be, “Yes.”

But it is nice to do those things. So even if you sometimes might think your body has “failed you”, we can still give thanks for what it has done up until that moment.

And maybe if we can shift our perspective from, this won’t always be the case depending on our beliefs and everything else, but for me, it really did feel that when that womb was removed from me, it took away a whole load of energetic baggage and debris and hurt that I didn’t have to carry anymore.

It was a very quick and convenient way, just to go, “Okay, it’s now gone.”

And what I should say, just in case anyone is concerned for me, is that of course when they did all the tests, there was absolutely nothing wrong with my womb or my ovary. And I think “#ofcourse”. I didn’t think for one second there was. So, yes, we always have a choice. We can always bring our own magick to the situation.

So, I would love to hear your stories.

And something else I think is really important is that we do need to start talking about our bodies more, particularly a woman’s body because it’s not spoken about enough.

I remember when I first spoke to my doctor, my GP and she said “oh, any symptoms from the age of 40 could be menopause that may or perimenopause.” And it felt so dismissive.

It’s like when you’ve an achy ankle or irregular bleeding, too much bleeding, it really is this whole thing of, “Oh, yeah, it could be anything.”

There’s just so little understanding, and so the more we can talk to each other about our bodies, about our experiences, about what’s normal for you. It lets other people go “oh, yeah. Okay, I got that. I don’t need to worry.”

Or “Oh, I’ve got that too, maybe I should go get myself checked out”.

So, if this does nothing else other than start a conversation that you can have, come and have it with me, come and have it in our community or with your own friend.

This is a conversation that needs to be started. 

Usually, menopause starts at age 51, I’m 44. I’m already the crone that I knew, I was destined to be and I love the crone energy.

I just want my hair to go completely silver and I will feel super, super happy then, instead of just happy, happy, happy.

So let me know your thoughts. I hope you find this interesting, a little bit of insight into someone else’s life. And I will speak to you all again, very soon.

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Hello, and welcome to the A Pinch of Magick podcast with me, Rebecca Anuwen.

So today I’ve got a Ask Me Anything answer to a question that has been posed to me.

When people come and join my free community, which actually I want to remind you about in a minute, there’s a question says, If you could ask Rebecca anything, what would you ask her?

And I was reading through all the questions today, because there’s quite a few. And this is a question that jumped up at me because it’s something that I feel very strongly about, and it’s one that a lot of people have.

So just to remind you, in that free community at the moment, which is why we’ve had an influx of people, so I’ve been going through all the questions is, we are still, in our Magickal Summer School.

It’s free.

It’s six weeks of classes about helping you to own your magick.

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There’s lots of really great content, and fabulous conversations going on around these topics.

Week one was all about what is magic, we were looking at, like where to begin, what do you do? How do you fit it in with your life tools, ethics and intentions.

The second week, one of my favorite topics, and there’s lots of my podcasts on this already, and that is energetic health and hygiene, why that’s important, when you know if your energy needs a little bit extra how to protect that energy and how to be very intentional with your energy. And we looked at like protection and shielding.

Week three, we looked at spells very much our relationship with the tools that we use the herbs, the colors, all of the correspondences that we use, we looked at like how to create a spell effectively.

And then last week, we looked at Sacred rhythms, we were looking at the moon energy, we were looking at the solar energy with the sabbats, we were looking at days of the week, we even had the most fun homework, where somebody actually posted in the group they went out for to their favorite Italian restaurant to have the most delicious pasta with with our partner. And she said this was the most fun homework ever. So if you’re curious about how going out for dinner is homework, you’ll want to come and listen to week four.

This week on Thursday, we’re looking at living your magick, daily practices, how to fit magick i, even if you feel too busy. How to fit magick in if you have children, puppies, life, careers, all of it, how to really weave magic into everyday life.

And in our final week, week six, we’re going to be looking at ritual and any final questions and answers people have for me.

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So back to the question that caught my attention today, somebody asks:

“I know that magic is about setting intentions, I feel very blessed and grateful for what I have in my life and my family. I struggle with knowing what I want. Many of the ideas for spells are about caring that you have for other people to make their lives easier. Will that still work? Alternatively? How do I figure out what I want?”

Now when I first started practicing kinesiology, an energy therapy, 23 years ago, most of the people coming to see me were coming to see me because they had conditions like IBS, and eczema.

And the reason they were coming to see me was because they wanted me to test for an allergy for them, they wanted me to tell them: Oh, you’re allergic to wheat, you’re allergic to tomatoes, cut those out and your IBS will clear up or your skin or clear up.

And you know, sometimes that would help.

But most of the time, like high 90 %, most of the time it’s because these women were living the life they thought they should live. They had, the family, the house, they had the cars, the careers, the holidays. And yet something wasn’t aligned for them.

They knew there was something else they wanted, but they didn’t have the language for it. They had never taken the time to say to themselves, actually, what is that I want from life.

And so because they didn’t know how to scream out, ‘help my life’s off track’, their body did it for them.

And so, when I start talking to these women about what is this really about? What about your dreams and desires? They would quite often say ‘Oh, I don’t know’. Or they would say that they I just wanted their family to be healthy. I want my children to do well. I want you know my parents to be x, y and z.

It was always about other people. It was never about themselves. And quite often when they suddenly realised this, they got really angry that they had, you know, put their life on hold. That they had lost a part of themselves and that they didn’t really know what they wanted anymore.

This really came home to me about, I think it was about six or seven years ago, after I had run summer school (different than it’s been this year). But the first time I’d run it about six or seven years ago, and people loved it so much that we went on to do a deeper dive into archetypes. We explored the Mother, Maiden, SHEro and Crone archetypes.

As we started looking at the archetypes, when we explored the Maiden, the ‘good girl energy’ came up, and it brought up so much rage, because people hadn’t realized how much they had been conditioned to be a ‘good girl’, to be a good person to be a good daughter, to be a good mom, to be a good employee, to be a good wife, to be a good… all of these things, that they had forgotten how to be a good themselves.

It’s like they’re we’re so busy and exhausted, being good at everything else, they had lost touch with who they were.

And when we look at society, it’s very much in particular women. And I always say this, I’m sure men get this as well. But I work mainly with women. So this is the lens I see it through. It’s like women have been conditioned to prioritize other people over themselves.

Now, of course, we can break through free from that conditioning. Absolutely. But still, I see women who are very much the carers and the nurturers. They might not have wanted that position. But that’s the position they found themselves in.

And then they get to a point in their life where they’re almost afraid to even allow themselves to dream. Because that’s when this anger comes up of all of those lost dreams, wasted opportunities, wasted years. And of course, they’re not wasted at all. But it can have that sense of oh my goodness, I’ve where has my life gone, you know, the children are leaving home, or careers are changing, or relationships are changing. And you’re just like, what, what’s just happened?

But when life changes, and suddenly you have that crossroads, and you’re like, ‘Oh, hang on a minute, is this still what I want?’ and you start becoming aware of those things you do want, the next thing that comes up is fear of rejection.

Because quite often we go into situations, whether it’s meeting people, going into work, and subconsciously, we have this pattern playing out saying:

‘Who do I need to be to be accepted in this community?’

‘Who do I need to be to be loved in this environment’

And so we can take on a role. Now, don’t confuse, sometimes it’s good to take on a role. Sometimes it’s maybe good to pretend to be a little bit more confident, or maybe part of your personality comes out at work and a different part of your personality comes out at home. That’s okay. But it’s when you completely lose your sense of identity.

And I know this because I did this. I thought it was a superpower. I thought when I was younger, I was like, oh my goodness, I can just fit into any community. And I can be in that community. And it’s a gift to be able to connect with all of those people. But I was losing a sense of myself.

It wasn’t as though I was like, Rebecca, just showing a different part of my personality. It’s like I could really merge into those communities. And I didn’t realize at the time, but that was very much because I can feel those things.

And anyone that maybe resonates as an empath or HSP, a highly sensitive person, perhaps you notice yourself being a chameleon in all of those areas. And it’s very easy to lose that sense of self.

And then of course, when you start to remember who you are, you can still be in all of those communities, but you show up as yourself. But perhaps you had always been the generous one, or the one that would always make the cake, or offer to drive someone, or offer to arrange the gathering, or whatever it may be.

And suddenly you’re like, actually, I don’t want to do that anymore. I’ve got other things I want to do with my time. Then what comes up is fear of rejection; ‘what if they don’t love me anymore, if I stopped doing that thing that I think they loved me for?

Because maybe they’re not loving you, for you. Perhaps you don’t know who you are. Perhaps you’ve never showed them who they are.

And then there’s that fear of, oh, if I start saying ‘no,’ how will they respond?

And then on top of that, there’s an identity piece. If you have always been the nurturer, the carer, the problem solver ,the rescuer, the cake baker, the taxi, the organizer… and suddenly you’re like, ‘you know what, maybe that’s not who I want to be anymore’, then we have a change your identity.

And it doesn’t sound like much like, ‘Yeah, but I don’t want to be the taxi driver anymore Rebecca’, or whatever it is. But if we, if we lose that sense of identity, it really is like, ‘Oh, who am I now?’

And I was just talking to someone, about a process I call ‘caterpillar soup’. Because like when you start to go, ‘oh, this is not how I want to show up in the world.’ We’re no longer the caterpillar, but we’re not quite the butterfly. So we have to go through this mushy space in the middle, where it feels like everything’s crumbling everything that we know.

And that’s that kind of loss of identity. And in that comes grief, grief for what could have been, grief for what won’t come into fruition anymore, once you change those identities.

And so that’s another part of the process as well.

And then, as if that wasn’t enough, you then have to go, ‘Oh, if I’m going to be true to myself’, which as we know, for you to create incredible magick in your life and to have spellcraft that works, you do need to be aligned, you do need to be true, you do need to be full of your energy and not other people’s judgments and expectations.

Once you do that, and you’re honest with yourself, we can’t escape honesty. Why we are busy doing all of the things, for all of the people, it’s very easy not to have honest conversations with yourself. And say ‘Oh, yeah, everything’s fine. It’s lovely’.

It’s lovely. Until one day, it’s not.

And then you’re like, holy broomsticks. How did I get here?

But once you make that decision, like, ‘oh, actually, who am I? What is it that I do want in the world?’ Once you start to have those conversations with yourself, you get the honest answers. Maybe not immediately, because there might be a few layers to crack through. But once you do, it’s like you then realize you have to have tough conversations, and perhaps there are tough choices to make.

Is that things are working out for you, or does it need to change?

Is that relationship still supportive of you?

Is that hobby, is that friendship, still one that feels aligned with you? Or Are there conversations that need to be had and boundaries to reassert?

What will you need to do differently from now on as you move forward?

And so, if your life is as this lady says, ‘I feel very blessed, I feel very blessed in my life right now’. It’s really hard to decide that you want to change that because if life is good, if life is great.

If life is just okay, it’s really hard to change that, because we know change is going to bring discomfort. And if things are okay, sometimes, okay, is better than the discomfort that we know comes with change.

I was talking to someone the other day, and they have this incredible dream, this incredible vision. And it’s gonna come with some judgment for this person. But their life is so good right now, so that this soul calling they have, they’re not taking action on it because their life is already so good.

And it’s really hard for them to go ‘but why would I want to rock the boat if my life is already really good?’ And yet, there’s this longing for this to create this thing.

And whilst she’s saying ‘I really want that’, but not doing that, there’s always going to be this longing for her.

And so when you think, ‘oh, yeah, you know, I know what I want to do’. It’s like, are you settling? No, I’m not saying you have to uproot everything in your life. But just quite often when people are like, ‘oh, yeah, I have this like dream’, but you’re not taking action towards it. It’s probably because life is really good. And it’s like, ‘Do you know what, good is good is really good’.

And we look at the things going on in the world, you’re like, ‘Oh, my goodness, I am really grateful for good’. It’s like, why would I rock the boat?

And so we have all of these different thoughts and feelings and subconscious patterns playing out that stop us really connecting with what you want.

And maybe you have done this in your life? Maybe you’ve settled in the past. Maybe you’re like, actually, I don’t know what I want.

So I want you to take a moment and just ask yourself, what do you want from life right now?

What are those dreams, those desires, those, those visions you have for yourself, or are you like ‘you know what life is good’?

And absolutely, good is fantastic. And maybe good is where you want to be.

And so, as this lady asked, How do I figure out what I want?

You know, she’s talked about doing her spell work for other people, everything she’s always wanted is for other people. And that’s probably a whole other conversation.

What I will actually just say about it right now though is when we’re doing work for other people, we want to ask their permission first.

If we can’t ask their permission, we offer the energy. This is the way I do it, I offer the energy to them, I don’t try and control the actions, they are still sovereign beings. So I might offer the energy to that person, and then just see it floating around their head, and if they want it, they can draw it down. If they don’t, it will just dissolve for the highest good of all involved.

So there is there like an integrity and ethics piece around doing work to other people. I mean, if they’ve asked you for it, that’s very different.

But anyway, that’s another conversation right now.

But when you think about what it is you want from the life, what are your dreams? What are your visions, I would just start by saying, follow your curiosity.

Look back over your life. And think about the most meaningful times in your life. When have you most felt like you, what was happening?

And a fun way to do this is to take your age, and divide it into four. So you’re looking at four areas of your life and think about what were the most meaningful things that happened in that quarter.

So my age is quite easy. I’m 44. So I could look at birth to 11 and ask myself: what are my significant memories from like, noughts to 11?

And then I could go from 12 to 22. And then from 23, to 33. And then from 33, to now to 44. And just think what are the significant things that have happened, when I’ve I most felt like myself, what do I look most forward to in my life.

And another thing that’s quite fun to do, is just think, if I was getting out of bed every day, well, hopefully you do get out of bed everyday. But when you were having your day, what would be the feelings or the values that you would want front and center of your life?

So that when you went to bed that night, you’re like, ‘Ah, that was a really good day’, and you genuinely feel fulfilled. Feeling like you’ve lived your purpose. Like you just feel that was a really good day.

Maybe it’s about connection, fun, joy, love. Maybe it’s about being in nature, maybe it’s about nourishing yourself, it doesn’t matter what it is.

Often when I ask people that question, they’ll say things like, oh, it’s love. And that may be true. But sometimes people pick love, because it seems like a ‘good’ value to have.

But is it yours?

Maybe yours is adventure. Maybe yours is abundance? And you’re like, ‘oh, but that seems a bit selfish’. Is it? Is it really?

And so when we have those judgments, just observe them? And just go ‘Oh, yeah, but if I could do anything in the world right now, what would it be?’

When you were a child? What was that job you wanted?

Maybe you wanted to be an astronaut. And maybe that won’t be possible for you today. But it’s that idea of adventure that would have been important to you, crossing final frontiers, going to places where people haven’t gone before.

So how can you incorporate more of that into your life?

As I’ve often shared, when I was younger, I was looking for my purpose, like it was a job title. And I think sometimes there can be so much pressure to figure out what you want right now that it has to be a destination, it has to be a thing.

When I was looking for my purpose, it’s like I want a job title. But maybe that’s not how it’s going to show up. Maybe what you want in life is more joy, more love, more learning, more expansion, more, travel, more adventure.

Start thinking about what makes your energy expand and pull you forward.

And so this is also quite a fun thing to do, you can just think about it, you know, think about having more joy in your life. And so just feel into your body. And just think, how would it feel to have more joy in your life?

Maybe your energy pulls you forward slightly, and it feels expansive? And you’re like, ‘Oh, yes, that feels really good’. It doesn’t have to be a jazz hands good. It could just be like a deep inner knowing where you’re just like, ‘Yes, that’s good’.

Or maybe your body just stays neutral.

When it’s like, ‘Yeah, neither here nor there’. Perhaps it just nudges you backwards. If it’s nudging you backwards. That generally means ‘no’. If your energy is contracting, it’s a no.

If it’s neutral, I think you can do better.

If it’s pulling you forward, particularly from your heart, or your energetic womb space, it’s like, ‘oh, explore more of that’.

Pick some values. Go on to Google and just Google v’alue list’. And you can just start working down the values list like, well, what would be a good one for me to have?

Because once you start giving yourself permission to dream, you will find the answer.

As you ask that question, ‘what do I want from life?’ you will start to receive that answer.

Now, you might want to ignore the answer you get for all of the reasons we’ve said. Because when we do know, it does demand that we create change. And, you know, maybe we don’t want to make the change that is going to be required of us.

But you at least owe it to yourself to explore the possibilities. So that’s one way of doing it.

Another way is to journal Now this does require that you use a pen and paper or digital notepad.

At the top with your dominant hand, the hand you would usually write with, just write: ‘what do I want from life?’

Okay, now, first of all, write that, and then just journal and see what comes up. You might want to start by saying; ‘I don’t know what I want from life Rebecca, that’s why I asked you…’

And then once you’ve started writing, you might be surprised by what comes up.

However, if that doesn’t work, and you’re just like; ‘nope, blocked, Rebecca, I can’t think of anything…’, then, with your non dominant hand, start writing. Because this is a great way to connect with like the truth of a situation for you.

Your brain is so busy trying to hold the pen. So busy trying to work out how to write a letter, that your the truth starts coming out.

So that’s a really interesting way to do it as well.

And, of course, a more magickal way… well, actually, they are very much magickal… but you could use divination. You could draw your favourite oracle cards, and just ask ‘what do I want more of in my life?’ And the cards will give you an answer.

Now, here’s the thing. It’s not about taking the card at face value. It’s about drawing that card, and you might want to reference the guidebook to see if any words jumped out at you. And as you read the description, if any words do feel stronger, write them down.

But equally, write down something you don’t like. If you’re like, ‘oh, I don’t want to do that. That’s not what I want at all’. Brilliant. Because knowing what you don’t want is as important as knowing what is what you do want.

So you can draw that card, and maybe it will say something like travel. And you’re like, ‘oh, no, I don’t want to travel. That’s awful. I can’t be doing with that’. And brilliant. Okay, so you know that what you want to do more of is probably a little bit closer to home. Or maybe it’s about like having community or stability.

Or you might look at that travel card and go, ‘Oh my God, yes. Oh, that’s exactly what I wanted’. And so now you can blame the card lol… You’re like, ‘oh, yeah, the cards told me’. But now you know that adventure, that growth, that broadening your horizons is important to you.

It doesn’t mean you have to travel, although of course you can do, but it’s just giving you a nudge in the right direction.

So, as always, with the journaling, with the asking yourself the questions, with the oracle cards, take a moment just to ground yourself to become present.

Then you might want to light a candle, you could light a candle for white for clarity. You could use yellow for clear communication. And you know, just think about what is it that you want to achieve, ‘what is it I want in life?’, you could use purple for like purpose.

Whatever colour resonates for you, or white is a very good go to candle. Light that candle. Close your eyes, put your hand over your heart space, feel your feet flat on the floor, just take a moment to ground and centre your energy.

Closing your eyes just to cut out distractions, hand on your heart just to connect with your body. And just ask for guidance to be able to connect with what it is that you want in the world.

If you’ve lost your dream, your vision, you’ve got lost along the way, just ask that question and then do the journaling. Then draw your tarot cards, your runes, your charms, whatever it is that you’re working with. And just allow your mind to wander.

If everything was taken care of in your life, if you didn’t have to worry about anything, what would you spend your time doing?

If time, money, energy wasn’t an issue, what would you be doing?

You might come up with a really big dream that feels really way out of reach. But that’s great. Visualize it, imagine it, think it, whatever works for you. And then think; ‘how can I bring a bit of that to my life now?’

And it might seem like how? You might have this vision of an incredible holiday and, you know, massages every day and cocktails in hammocks, or living in a completely different place, or having a completely different job.

Ask yourself, ‘what would that really give you?’

So I’m not saying don’t have that dream. But what is the fundamental ways that you would be feeling the values that would be front and center of your life, the emotions that you would be feeling?

What needs would be getting met?

And then ask yourself; ‘how can you do that in daily life?’

Now, it might not look like the big lavish holiday, it might not look like the grand mansion, it might not look like that job that you have, that you dream of, but what can you do to connect you with that energy?

Today, there will be something, it might just be to look at a picture of a beautiful landscape, of if you want cocktails by the sea it might be to go to your favourite bar and have that cocktail.

It could be to listen to beach sounds. There will be something you can do that will give you that energy.

Maybe it’s about the idea of being carefree. Maybe it’s the idea of adventure, or travel or growth? Or maybe it’s that idea of being nourished or nurtured. Maybe it’s the idea of feeling safe.

Think about how can you bring that energy into your life right now today? And then follow the curiosity?

So you’ve got that dream, maybe that dream changes over time, over days, or weeks or even months? And just keep thinking: ‘If nothing was an issue in your life right now, what would you do, be, and have?’

And then bring it back to today, and think about how you can you give yourself that now.

And as you keep dreaming into that bigger vision, it just gives us clues into how you want to be living your life, how you can be showing up right now.

And you start to connect with what it is that you want.

Because first of all, when I ask people what they want, it is usually always about other people.

Then I say ‘no, what is it you actually want for yo? If you’re allowing yourself to be completely self-focused for a moment. And just for a moment, what would you allow yourself to dream into?

So I would love for you to come over into our community. Obviously, come and join Summer School if you want to.

But just to share? What is the your dream right now?

What are those values and those feelings you want front and centre of your life?

And how can you give them so how can you give them to yourself now, as you move towards what it is you want for yourself.

And knowing that that will change.

When you are maybe at college or university or just starting work, your dreams and desires may be very different from when you have several young children, or as your children grow older, or when children leave home or whether you don’t have children.

As life changes, you change and your dreams and desires can change too.

So even if you haven’t ever thought about your own dreams and desires until now it’s like; what would I want right now?

What would be really like fun, nourishing, joyful, expansive.

What would make you feel more like yourself?

How could you express yourself fully?

It might look like learning a new skill.

It could look like changing relationship.

These are big questions. And it doesn’t surprise me that people can sometimes avoid them.

And it’s worth remembering that we can have a dream, only to find out it’s not actually ours. It’s something we have internalised because our family, our culture, our society wanted us to have it.

And so you think it’s yours because you hear it in ‘your voice’, so to speak, and then you discover ‘Oh my God, this isn’t even mine!’

So that’s another very good question to ask yourself when you say, ‘Yeah, I know what my dream is Rebecca’. Just ask yourself, ‘Is it yours?’

And hopefully 100% It is.

Or you might say, ‘Oh, do you know what, it nearly is, but there’s something missing?’

If this is the case, give yourself permission to get really clear on what it is you want from life. And remember, it doesn’t have to be a thing. A lot of people have vision boards with ‘things’ on the vision board. And that’s fantastic. But actually, maybe it’s a feeling you want more of in your life, maybe it’s a value that you want front and centre.

There is no wrong answer for you.

The right answer is your truth.

And you might try something on and go, ‘Yeah, I thought I wanted that. But I don’t anymore’. And that’s okay.

It’s okay to change your mind.

You’re human, it’s what we do. It’s what life does to us.

Our experiences change, we change and then maybe our desires change, too. And that’s okay, too.

So, come into our community, and let us know what it is you want from life.

Because I always love it when people share their dream, the things that they want or their intentions. I just imagine us all Care Bear staring… such a child of the 80s and 90s… and Care Bear staring your your dreams and your visions into life.

And if you’re still not sure what it is that you want, come and ask questions about it in our community, and we’ll nudge you in the right direction and get you answering the right questions to help you connect with that, and maybe identify some of the patterns or the fears that are holding you back. And there’s lots of magick we can do for that.

So I hope to see you in our community and come and share your biggest dreams and desires.

I’ll speak to you again soon.

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Hello, and welcome to the Pinch Magick Podcast with me, Rebecca Anuwen.

So please indulge me for a moment in my Britishness. Let me just talk about the weather, but I promise it does have relevance.

So right now, in the UK, we are in the middle of a heat wave. I think that’s the only way to describe it.

I don’t like heat.

If you’ve ever seen how I look, I’m very, very pale. I have quite red hair. I used to before it started going silver and I have freckles.

And to be quite honest, if it wasn’t for my freckles, I would be very… I always used to joke actually that I’d be Scottish or be very blue.

But actually, when I’ve had my ancestry done, I am more Scottish than I am English, but anyway, that’s besides the point… you now have a little bit of insight into my life there.

So anyway, I don’t do heat very well.

I grew up in Cornwall and I lived in a seaside town and my friends could sunbathe all day in the hot weather.

 I could sunbathe for about maybe two minutes and then I’d get hot and bothered.

 I’m just not designed for heat.

 I was thinking about the podcast today and I love an analogy and I’ve shared it on the podcast before, but I’m devoting a whole podcast episode, for it today, which is to ‘shine brightly’.

 I had this thought yesterday before, like the peak of the sun hit and I was like, ‘oh, I’m going to talk about ‘shine brightly’, even if it makes other people uncomfortable’.

 Then one of the clients that I saw today, one of my one-to-one clients today, she said, “Oh Rebecca, I still remember what you told me back in December, and it was to shine brightly.”

 And I was like, “Yes, we definitely need a reminder.”

 So it’s very, very easy in life to dim your light, to be concerned about what others may think, to prioritise the comfort of other people over your own.

Particularly, I see this in women who come to work with me, who are mothers, who have rightly so, when your childhood, I often say this to my little boy. “When you were first born, you couldn’t do anything. You couldn’t even roll over.” So when our children are little, absolutely they need our time, energy and attention.

And then life happens, and they grow up and they still have our time, attention, and energy, and planning, and play dates, and school and after-school clubs.

Then maybe there are ageing parents and there are friendships and there are romances and, and, and…

We do all of these things, and we have all of these relationships to manage and all of these responsibilities to be responsible for, that sometimes, often along the way, in fact, you don’t have to have the children.

It’s like, we all have those responsibilities, whether it’s at work, like I say, in romances, with your own parents, with your siblings.

There’ll be something around you that is asking for your attention and it’s very easy to lose our sense of self.

Not always, but we lose part of ourselves.

And then when we have time, energy and resources, we start thinking, “Oh, wouldn’t it be nice to do this?”

And we might want to start to change. But when we change, that makes other people around us feel very uncomfortable because maybe they don’t want you to change because they like you the way they are.

They like their life the way that it is.

And they don’t want to have that change ‘forced upon them’. Perhaps you changing or starting to change something in your life, reminds them that they too could also change. And maybe they don’t want to change.

Maybe they can’t change and then they feel maybe jealous or resentful about it.

I remember once, it was a long, long time ago. My goodness, it must be like 20 years ago actually, and it was very hot. I was in a pub with someone and they said, “What do you want to drink?”

And I said, “Can I just get water? Because it was really, really hot and I wasn’t drinking alcohol at the time. They just said to me, it was my friend’s brother. They went, “You make me feel like an alcoholic.”

And I was like, “Oh my gosh, I only asked for a drink of water.” And I was like, “Gosh, who has the problem there?”

I had just innocently asked for a drink of water because it was very, very hot where I was. They suddenly accused me of making them feel like an alcoholic because we were in a pub and I was drinking water.

It wasn’t until afterward I was like, “Ah, I think there’s a bit of an issue there.”

And spending more time with them, it became a little bit more obvious that perhaps the issue was with them.

But me choosing to drink water in a pub, they were running the story that if you were in a pub, you had to have an alcoholic drink, you couldn’t possibly ask for a drink of water. So I made them feel uncomfortable.

Of course, I still drank my water. I was thirsty and it was hot.

Sometimes our choices reflect to other people what’s going on in their life and sometimes they just don’t want us to change.

And sometimes social conditioning tells us that, I love this actually, I collected a load of phrases once, I wish I could remember all of them.

In the UK we have, ‘Don’t get too big for your boots.

In Ireland, it’s like ‘Don’t get above your station’.

In America, it’s ‘Don’t get too big for your britches’.

In Australia and New Zealand, it’s ‘Tall poppy syndrome’.

In France, it’s something about swollen ankles.

There are so many cool phrases like this. I say, cool, interesting phrases like this, all designed to keep people in their place.

Now in days gone by that would’ve kept you safe. It would’ve kept you in community.

In times where being in a community meant the matter of life or death. And so those stories have stayed with us and it’s turned from survival into control and people still play out these patterns.

Quite often when you join a group, a work group, family and friends, subconsciously often the question is “Who do I need to be, to be loved in this situation?” “Or, who do I need to be, to be accepted in this situation?”

And so the idea of becoming full of ourselves, as I love to say, makes people feel really uncomfortable because being full and confident…

If we haven’t been full or confident in our life, we are concerned that we’re coming across as conceited or selfish in an unhealthy way.

And so what this has to do with the weather is that I believe that everybody has the same soul path in the world.

It may get expressed in very different ways, but everyone’s soul path is to live the most fully expressed version of themselves.

Now I know for me and for many other people when you get this idea of soul path, people often, (I know I certainly did) they go looking for a soul path, but what they’re actually doing is looking for a job description.

And I remember when I first came across the term ‘Priestess’, I was like, ‘oh my goodness. That’s exactly what I’m here to do’.

And of course, it wasn’t, it was just one path of how I expressed myself, but we can look for it like a job title.

When I suddenly realised I was like, “Oh, but what if we’re just here to be our fully expression version of ourselves?” Everything suddenly came together.

And I think about this with the sunshine.

As I said at the beginning, I’m not a huge fan of the sunshine. I love looking at it. If I lived in an air-conditioned house with nice, cool stone floors, it would be a dream.

I could just hide from the sun all day long and just look at it out the window and just feel like a nice temperature instead of like a raging molten mess which is how I feel right now.

But the thing is, the sun is just being the sun.

It’s not doing anything wrong.

It is being its fully expressed self.

You can imagine when I was growing up in Cornwall, if I was shouting at the sun, getting a bucket of seawater and throwing it at the sun and telling it to calm down, you’re making me feel uncomfortable. ‘Turn your light down. You’re hurting me’. People would think I had gone bonkers, people would be like, “Rebecca chill, what the hell’s going on?”

So instead what I do is:

I avoid the midday heat.

I drink plenty of water.

I put on my factor 50 sun cream and I can still burn… It’s pretty impressive actually.

Sunglasses, hats whatever it is I need to do, but it’s my responsibility to make myself feel comfortable in the presence of the sun.

It is not for me to tell the sun to tone itself down.

That’s ridiculous.

And I want you to remember the same is true for you.

If somebody else feels uncomfortable by your choices, by you expressing the fullness of yourself in your most authentic, genuine way, it is not for you to make them feel comfortable.

You cannot possibly make everybody around you feel comfortable.

You will be exhausted.

What you do is you tell them to put on their sunglasses and you carry on shining.

So I want you to really receive that message that your job here (even though I said, we’re not looking for a job but we’re not) but it’s like your role on earth, I believe, and working with thousands of clients, is to show up in the most fully expressed version of yourself.

Will it make other people feel uncomfortable?

Yes.

Because some people just don’t like change. They benefit from you behaving a particular way around them.

They like you behaving a particular way around them. They get scared they might lose you, whatever it is, but that’s really on them.

That’s not on you.

Of course, if that relationship is important to you, you have those conversations, you tell them the journey you’re on.

You tell them the path that you’re on.

You tell them about expressing yourself and your dreams.

And if they are true friends, they will celebrate that with you. They won’t try and hold that back…

Oh my goodness. What time is it? It’s like nine o’clock at night and it’s still like high twenties over here, which, you know, I know is very, very common for many of my friends in Australia and other countries, but it is just not that common for us…

It’s like I could get annoyed at the sun, but it’s for me to try different ways to keep cool, including sleeping under a damp towel. Yes. That’s how hot it has been.

But the sun is just being the sun.

I can’t be mad at it.

It’s my responsibility to look after myself, to stay inside, to drink all my water, to get my little fans going and my air conditioning unit going.

So where in your life right now are you toning down because somebody is shouting at your sunshine, shouting at your power, your magic that you are sharing in the world?

Because it’s not for you to tone that down.

Now of course, sometimes you might want to turn the volume down when it suits you, but you are not dimming your light for anyone else just because they feel uncomfortable.

Now, sometimes again, you might want to turn that volume down but do it because you have chosen to.

Do it because it’s the right thing for you to do and not because you feel blamed or shamed by somebody else.

If there’s a situation in your life where you feel like you constantly have to be turned down because you feel unsafe to shine your brightest, then I urge you to get support to help you navigate safely for yourself.

So of course, I’m not talking about putting yourself in danger in any way whatsoever. There are people and charities and all sorts of people that can help you if you have those significant concerns.

But if it’s every day, “Oh Rebecca, they’re going to judge me if I shine my lights.”

“It’s like, well, how about you shine it?” Because when you don’t, you do yourself a disservice.

When you don’t, you are disloyal to yourself.

The problem about being disloyal to yourself is that we don’t trust disloyal people.

If I said to you, ‘oh that person over there is really disloyal’. The next words out of my mouth would probably be ‘don’t trust them’.

And if you are being disloyal to yourself, you stop trusting yourself, which means you lose connection with your intuition.

So next time you want to make a decision about something, you start not trusting yourself.

You have an intuitive hit, and instead of just going, “Oh yeah, that’s exactly what I want to do. I’m going to follow that path.”

What you do instead is go, “Oh yeah, that’s what I want to do.” And then maybe a couple of minutes, couple of days, a couple of hours later, you say, “Yeah, but do I really want to? What would they say?” Maybe, I imagined that. Perhaps that wasn’t an intuition insight”.

And so, you start to unravel that trust because you don’t trust yourself anymore.

I’ve done a whole podcast episode on power, but every time you give that power to somebody else, you dim your light that little bit more.

Every time you look for validation, that external validation from somebody else. Every time someone tells you:

“Who do you think you are, madam?

Who do you think you are to do that?

Oh my goodness. Look at you being all X, Y, and Z.”

And they try and shame you into shrinking smaller, and you do shrink smaller. You have given them your power.

When we call back all of our power, when we stand in the magnificence and the radiance of who you are, you can’t take on the judgments and expectations of other people, because you are full of your own self;

full of your own esteem,

full of your own trust,

full of your own loyalty for yourself,

full of the truth of who you are.

You get to shine in your own magnificence.

Like I say, sometimes you might want to dial it down. Just shining brightly doesn’t mean you are ‘on’ all the time, but it just means that always you are creating and connecting to that light, that brightness, that darkness within you, all of it.

The whole spectrum of self in you.

The shining bright light of radiance, which brings action.

Which lights your way forward into the darkness of the wisdom, which is your intuition and the magic, into the mysteries of the world.

You embrace all of it.

You don’t judge yourself as good or bad.

You don’t judge the light or the dark as good or bad.

You just know that those are all aspects of who you are and you just shine them all.

Sometimes vibrantly and loudly in neon pink and green colours. And sometimes, maybe more pastel and beige colours, but it’s done of your choice, not because someone else has told you that you shouldn’t do that.

So, you can thank the sunshine for today’s reminder to shine your brightest, regardless of other people celebrating you, and regardless of other people cursing you, it doesn’t matter.

Everybody will have an opinion of you and your behaviours and very little of it is actually any of your business.

So just go ahead and shine, shine, shine, and come over into our community and let me know whether you are a sun worshipper or sun hider like me.

If you do have any tips for staying cool, if you are of a warmer climate, I wouldn’t say no to those either.

Regardless, just give yourself permission to shine and notice where you hold yourself back from doing so.

So thank you for joining me and I will be back soon, hopefully feeling a little bit cooler.

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On today’s episode of the A Pinch of Magick podcast I share my thoughts on the difference between magick and witchcraft.

How you can use them separately and what happens when you use them together with intention.

This came up during week 1 of the free Magickal Summer School – you can check out the replay here.

The first class was all about the fundamentals of magick and the question came up about diving deeper into the difference between magick and witchcraft, so I thought I’d record an episode on it.

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Hello, and welcome to the Pinch of Magick Podcast with me, Rebecca Anuwen.

So, this question came up in Magickal Summer School.

So, we started Magickal Summer School, which is 6 weeks of magick, it’s free to join.

We’ve only had our first class, our second class is on Tuesday.

And this week, we had a look at the foundations of magick.

On Tuesday, we’re looking at energetic health. And as you know, if you listen to this podcast, it’s one of my favourite topics. So, if you want to join us, links in the show notes, come and join our community, everything is held in our community. We will be talking all things energetic health, if you have questions, if you want to join me live, if you want to submit your questions, if you want to know what you can do to keep your energy running free, if you’ve had wonky energy, all of your questions are welcome.

However, back to this week.

So, we were looking at the foundations of magick. And one of the things we were talking about was the difference between magick and witchcraft.

And after the event someone posted on the replay, and they asked me to go into more detail. So, I thought, oh, let’s do a podcast, because if they have a question, no doubt other people have a similar question too.

So, I want to start by saying, this is my experience and my belief, obviously, because it’s my podcast, but this doesn’t mean it’s the only way.

This is how I experience it currently, and just as with everything else in my podcasts, it doesn’t mean to say in 5, or 10 years’ time, I might change my mind. But this is about starting a conversation.

So, I’m going to share my thoughts on the difference between magick and witchcraft, if there is one.

And if you want to share your experience, whether you agree, whether you disagree, whether you resonate with parts of it, but not all of it, come and join the conversation over in our community.

Like I say, this is not me saying, this is gospel, this is the only truth, not at all, but this is my experience. And hopefully something that I say, something that I share, will allow you to deepen into your own understanding.

Even if it’s like going, ‘I don’t agree with you Rebecca, what I think is this…’, because throughout life, sometimes it’s really good to have something validated, and be like, ‘oh, that’s what I felt but I didn’t have the words for it’, or for someone to go, ‘oh yeah, that’s what I think, oh, thank goodness, someone else thinks the same that I do’.

But equally sometimes when we don’t agree with something that is equally as important because it helps us find out what we really do believe.

So, magick and witchcraft, to me, magick and witchcraft are separate things.

However, we use magick in witchcraft, but to own your magick every day, you do not have to do witchcraft.

Now, in our first lesson, I kept calling it an episode, I’m so used to doing podcasts…, when I was teaching the class, I was like, ‘oh, in this episode’, I was like, ‘no, no, in this class’…. I talked about witches, I talked about whether it was important to claim our titles. And so, if you want to listen to that replay, just come over into our community, the replay is there, fairly easy to find, if not tag me and I will point you in the right direction.

What I think about magick, magick, I believe is inherent in everyone.

It is in you; you are the magick.

People often think that we need the tools. I always say this, but as I look around my office, there’s I think I counted 13 cauldrons on my window. So, an altar just in front of me, no doubt, there’s some behind me too. And crystals and candles and herbs and all of that good stuff.

We can use that for magick, to connect with our magick, but it is not the magick.

You are the magick.

You bring the magick to everything that you do.

You already have it. It is inherent.

It is that energy you hold within you. It is that energy that weaves around the world around us. It’s how you interact with the world. It’s your unique essence, and I think the word ‘unique’ is the important part.

It might look different to other people, so you might not actually notice that it’s your magick.

But if you ever meet someone who just has that something about them, you know, they might call it like the ‘X Factor’ or they have a presence or an aura or there’s something magnetic about them, that’s that person fully embodying their truth.

And when we embody our truth, when we hold our power, when we have that confidence, that’s our magick.

Now it doesn’t mean we have to be 100% confident all of the time, but it’s, we have to be comfortable in our own skin so to speak.

That is the magick.

The magick is that ability to create change, using that energy within you, and understanding how it weaves with the world around us.

That’s the magick.

It shows up as mindset and being able to reframe something, from being able to notice when old patterns show up, and we can go ‘oh nope, stop, let’s not go down that path’, ‘how can I look at this differently?’

It shows up in synchronicities; ‘oh, my goodness! I was just thinking about that person’.

It shows up as air quotes “coincidences”.

Today, I decided with the new puppy, he had his vaccinations and he could go outside of our own garden yesterday for the first time. And so, we went for a particular walk. And then today, I was like, ‘oh, let’s go for a walk’. Like literally just across from where I live, there’s a footpath that I have never been down, I’ve been down all the other footpaths, never this one footpath.

And I was like, ‘oh, let’s take the puppy down that footpath and see where we end up’.

I’ve been wandering around my area, my garden, looking for plantain leaves, ripe plantain to make a salve out of. And I’ve seen some little plantain leaves, not a huge amount.

This one though, this footpath, which clearly is not very used because where I live, it’s not overly populated, had huge plantain leaves, huge. And I think I might have even described them as juicy. And I was like, ‘oh my God, this is exactly what I’ve been looking for, for when I go to make my bump balm’, like a salve. Because plantain is really good for stings and cuts and grazes and things like that. And I’ve been looking for it. And now I found like the perfect place, and it was the whole floor of this whole footpath, you could barely see the grass for the plantain. Things like that. That is the magick.

I was awake very early the other morning. And I was chatting to a friend in New York, because the time difference kind of worked out that she was just coming home from a night out, I was still awake in the morning. And it was about four o’clock in the morning. And the birdsong was phenomenal.

I mentioned this to my friend and she asked; ‘what’s birdsong?’

I said ‘the dawn chorus when the birds wake up this kind of time of year May, June, July time, at four o’clock in the morning’.

It’s so noisy, I mean, it’s absolutely spectacular and beautiful. And she hadn’t heard it. And so, I just recorded it, I opened the window and recorded it. She described it as her place of Zen.

Things like that, that’s the magick, the sunset, the dew glistening on the grass. It’s like the way that you notice the world, the way that you choose to interact with the world.

It is that energy of noticing.

The magick then becomes even more accessible because you have that magick in you anyway.

But when you start to notice it at play, just with anything, what you put your attention on, you have more of, you start to notice.

I could have just walked along the field or the footpath and not noticed the plantain that was on the floor. But I want the magick in my life, I notice these things.

All day long, I’ve heard this red kite like, coring, what do they do? Crying? Squawking? I don’t know what they do. But it’s just being tapped into your environment noticing. Noticing the tree roots cracking the pavement in the city or the grass, or that flower growing halfway up a building, and noticing the magick.

Just noticing the things that maybe we pass by, the things that remind us of our own inner power, of our own resilience, of our own beauty, of the variety of life, the richness of life.

And then that magick, with that magick, we can direct it.

We can say to ourselves, ‘what is it I want to create?’

And we can direct our time, our energy and our resources for that purpose.

And so, we can do that with discipline.

We can show up even when we don’t feel like it.

We want to write a book, we show up to write even when we don’t feel like it.

We want to train to run a certain distance, we show up even when we don’t feel like it.

We keep showing up. We sit with the discomfort, we learn, we grow, we expand, we recognize where we can improve our lives.

All of that, to me is the magick, and it starts with that inherent magick within us.

We all have that, that special thing, that thing that makes us unique, that thing that wants to express ourselves as our soul purpose. To me, that’s the magick.

The ability to create change.

The ability to live with integrity with your own values.

When you can do that, when you’re clear on your values, when you’re clear on the feelings, when you’re clear on how you want to show up, when you’re clear of the kind of relationships you want to have in your life.

All of that is in alignment with your unique blend of magick.

So then, if we look at witchcraft, absolutely, we can take that magick and we can use that in witchcraft. And we will have the most potent magick/witchcraft.

This is where I kind of get lost for words right now… It’s like that magick is within us, but now we take that magick and through using witchcraft, which looks like the layering of intention by using tools such as cauldrons, or wands, or brooms, or athames, any kind of tools, whether they’re candles, whether we’re adding herbs, any other correspondences that feel appropriate to us to work with, whether we’re using those candles, those herbs, those correspondences in spells, all of those things direct the magick.

Now, here’s the difference, when we use the tools, the candles, the herbs, the crystals, the moon waters, you know, whatever it is that we’re using, when we use that, we are tapping into all of the people that have used that also.

So when I teach people how to, I suppose it is witchcraft, when I teach people how to use the tools and how to use the candles, I will always say, traditionally, a red candle has been used for passion or for energy or for whatever you associate red with, whatever typical energy red would be. Because when we use that, we add to the energy of all the people that have used red for passion, for courage, for fire, for creativity, who have used that in the hundreds and hundreds of years before us.

The people that have used rosemary to go, ‘oh, this is really good for clearing the energetic smog, for helping us to think clearer’, peppermint for clarity, for upset stomachs.

All those things, it’s like we add to the energy of saying, ‘oh, red means this, orange means this’, ‘we would use this crystal for this, and this crystal for that’.

We add to that collective energy. So that, every time we use red, we tap into an archetypal energy as well as the individual energy.

And so that’s great. So even if you aren’t connected to your own magick, you don’t know what your own magick looks or feels like, you’re still giving your power away to other people, because that’s a very important factor of owning your own magick, is, that is magick and power are absolutely entwined.

And I talk about that quite a lot in the class, and I know that I’ve done previous podcasts on the importance of reclaiming our power, but those two are absolutely entwined.

However, if you don’t, if you’re not owning your power, you’re not owning your magick, you can tap into the energy of a red candle or using these herbs or using these crystals, and you can still create change because you’re tapping into that collective energy.

And so, you can follow a spell. I like to think of spells as recipes, because that’s what they do. They’re like, do this, do this, do this, do this and do this. Here’s a recipe tried and tested, try it yourself, you can do this.

And so, we do that. And with that, quite often you’ll create change.

However, I think that when we work with witchcraft, and magick, it’s about relationships.

So, when you think of the colour red for you, perhaps it’s not about power, perhaps it’s not about courage, perhaps it’s not about passion, perhaps it’s about anger. And actually, you don’t want any extra anger right now, or perhaps it’s about something else.

And so, even if you’re creating, if you’re following a spell like you would do in witchcraft, and you were following someone else’s recipe, and you are using things because you thought you should do it, because that’s the way you have been told to do it, you may get a good result, or you might get a hit or miss result, because actually the things don’t really correspond to those meanings for you.

It’s like if you were told, ‘oh, you should have banana bread, because it’s really good for you’, for whatever reason. Perhaps you don’t like bananas, it might be good for some people that love bananas, but for you, it’s not going to be that great

Or if someone says, ‘oh, yes, you should make this recipe with the ‘devil’s food’, rum and raisin ice cream’. Let’s say if someone said, I’ll make crepes with rum and raisin ice cream for X, Y, and Z, and I did, I would eat that, I’d absolutely hate it. Well, I wouldn’t eat it at all actually, it’s disgusting. But if you love rum and raisin ice cream, you’d have a very different experience. And it’s the same with witchcraft.

So for me, the magick in witchcraft, when you can align with your own magick, when you can look at witchcraft and go, ‘oh, yeah, actually, what I need for this is an orange candle or a yellow candle’, or ‘actually, I don’t want to use rosemary, bay leaf works better for me’.

Because you know yourself.

You know your magick, you trust yourself.

And with that comes that intuition, that comes that inspiration, that’s when the witchcraft takes your magick to a whole new level.

Because it allows you to channel and more deeply focus with intent, your own magick, I think of witchcraft as layering your magick.

So, you have your magick anyway, everybody has their magick, but now if you want to take that to another level, and you start bringing in the witchcraft, so you are basically crafting your witch energy, your wise woman energy, your inner knowing energy, and you are crafting that.

So, you’re not just following a recipe mindlessly or buying something on Etsy, not that there’s anything wrong with that, you know, we all start somewhere.

But when you’re like, ‘oh, no, I’m ready to craft my magick’ and you start learning and developing relationships with your own tools, when you’re developing relationships with the herbs and the crystals. And I say crystals, but they might be rocks and pebbles that you found in your own garden.

That’s when you are becoming a master of your craft, instead of a cook.

Instead of just following a recipe, you’re now going, oh yes, and what I actually want to work with

how I feel in my life right now,

how my energy feels,

how I feel with this time of the year, this time of the month, because of the moon phases, or maybe a menstrual cycle.

How I feel about this actually, what I want to bring in, is this elements.

And I want to bring in this and you just know, like the perfect pinch of magick, the perfect pinch of air quotes, “salt” or a little sprinkle of cinnamon, just to shift the whole flavour of the work that you are doing, the change that you are creating, because you are now crafting.

So, for me, that’s the main difference between magick and witchcraft.

Everybody has magick, everybody has access to their inherent way of being in the world.

Some people choose to access it, and some people don’t. Some people live their life through like a magickal lens, and some people are like, ‘nope, not having any of that’, ‘that was just coincidence’, ‘everything is awful’.

Whereas when we want to craft, it’s like that’s when we hone our ability to wield and weave that energy in the world.

We’re just bringing our conscious energy to it, and we are layering all of those correspondences on to it.

We’re layering those relationships onto it, so that when we are creating change, whether we’re doing it with just our magick through mindset and intention, or if we’re bringing in the candles, and the herbs, and the rituals, and the chants, and the drumming and the invocations, what we’re doing is we’re creating channels for us to receive.

So, in either way, if you’re only working with magick, or if you’re crafting your witch energy, you are creating channels to receive.

You’re saying to the universe, ‘this is what I want, how am I going to create the energy to receive this?’

‘What do I need to do?’

And so, we’re sending energy out into the world like energetic cords out into the world, like little spider webs going, this is what I want universe. And what we’re doing is those webs then create channels for us to receive the magick, the things, the emotions, the opportunities, whatever it is that we’re asking for.

Whatever it is we’re working with, we’re sending out to those channels, to create channels to receive our desires.

And so, we can do that purely with our intention, with our mindset, with our thoughts, with our actions, with our behaviours.

Or we can create more/deeper channels, wider channels, bigger channels for us to receive by really crafting our energy and knowing ourselves deeply.

Because I believe that’s what witchcraft is.

And I was talking on our class on Thursday, about the tools that we use, and there’s an Instagram account that I follow, that makes the most beautiful brooms, I mean, they’re absolutely stunning witch brooms.

And each year, in the Witch Academy, we create our own brooms, little handheld brooms, and I’ve made them out of twigs, I’ve made them out of herbs, little herb bundles.

And mine, they have a certain beauty to them, I think they’re beautiful. They are like nothing compared to this Instagram account I follow, and yet I know that the tool that I create, and sometimes it’s literally a bunch of rosemary with a piece of string around the top, it doesn’t even have to be fancy. But when I’ve made that with intention, when I’ve made that with a circle of people in the Witch Academy, that tool has my intention, it has my desires, it has me in it, I’ve collected those tools, I’ve made them. I know that actually is going to have stronger meaning to me, rather than one that looks really pretty.

Of course, the pretty one will still work, absolutely. Consecrate it, you make it your own, but there is something really powerful about making our own tools, whether it’s, you know, sometimes I use a biro as a wand to direct energy.

It doesn’t have to be fancy.

But there’s also absolutely nothing wrong with buying all of the things, you need to. Buy that beautiful broom and buy the wands, there is a beauty in that.

But the tool is only magick because of the energy you bring to it.

So, if you’ve created it, it has even more of that magick into it.

I mean, maybe one day, I’ll learn how to work with metal to cast my own cauldron, but until then I’ll keep buying them… or actually, I won’t because I have plenty…

But it’s not about, you having to make your tools, but there is a magick and a potency that you bring to that tool.

Because again, it’s like you’re literally crafting your magick, you are crafting a tool that you’re going to work with.

You are crafting that witch energy.

So, let me know how this resonates for you.

Like I said, you are absolutely welcome if you haven’t already come and join our community to come and join our 6 weeks of magick.

I’m just showing up once a week and we’re having a deeper dive into some topics. This week, we did the fundamentals of magick. Next week, we are doing energetic health and hygiene. And the reason we do that is because I want to make sure everyone’s on the same page when we’re talking about magick, what it is, how it shows up.

Then we need to make sure our energy is clean, clean is the wrong word, clear, and that we are aware of how we use our energy, for the exact reasons I’ve just spoken about today.

When we want to work with our energy, we have to know what’s ours and what isn’t, what is our magick.

If you’re like, ‘but Rebecca, I don’t know what my magick is,’ you need to be coming to the class on Tuesday, as I say it’s completely free to join, there’s a replay available, it’s all available over in our community.

And then on the third class, then we’re talking about spells. Basically, we’ll be talking about spells, creating spells, and working with relationships. So that’s when we’re going to dive deeper into the idea of witchcraft, crafting your witch energy, crafting your wise woman energy. So, I hope you can join us for that. I hope you found this interesting. But I would love to know your thoughts on magick versus witchcraft.

So come over into our community, click the link in the show notes to join our community, and there’ll be this podcast in there and just comment underneath.

What are your thoughts?

I’d love to have that conversation because when I’ve done the interviews recently for the people that have contributed to the book The Modern Craft, I’ve asked them what magick is, and everyone has their own idea of magick.

This just happens to be my idea of magick and how it shows up.

So, I’d love to hear what your idea of magick is.

So, thank you for joining me, hopefully I will see you on Tuesday, if not, I will speak to you again very soon. Bye!